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Re:Re:Zhangyan/Helen Zhang: Using the translators provided here
Zhangyan, Hao!
Shi ah. yong translator you kan kan ge yingwende ci. There will never be a computer program that can translate human language as well as a person. It's easy enough to develop algorithms for verb conjugations, grammar, and syntax, but there's simply no way to program a computer to recognize idioms and separate them from similar non-idiomatic expressions. And there is no way to explain to a computer how to pick up all of the sublteties of context necessary to choose the correct interpretation of a word with multiple meanings. That's not even mentioning all of the things that simply don't translate from one language to another, or where one language uses a word differently than another language uses the same word. Translation is a very complicated skill.
I'm confused about the change in the bulletin board. I thought it was always that way. What was it doing before? Not that it matters; I was just curious.
Yes, you have answered all of my messages, I'm sure you're right. I wasn't keeping track.
you jian dao ni!
Mark
Hi Mark,
Thank you very much for indicating the translator in the MLE. I have applied it to translate some English sentences. They came out so funny that I got even more confused. So I prefer to translate word for word. Anyway, you make me know more about the MLE.
And I found the bulletin board is a little different now. The most updated messages come out on the top of each topic. It is more convenient.
Wo ye hen gao xing he ni liao tian. (~{NRR2:\8_PK:MDcADLl~}). Ha ha. I have answered all your messages now. Have you seen them?
Have a great day!
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Mark S.
April 12, 2005
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Latest: April 12, 2005
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Zhangyan/Helen Zhang: Using the translators provided here
Message III of III for Zhangyan 4/6/05
Finally, my long-overdue answer to your question is that you'll find the translator at the top left of all of the MLE pages where all of the MLE options are located. It's the tenth item down, right below the one you click on to open the Bulletin Boards. The link is called "Translations", and it opens up another window that gives you links to three different web sites that provide translating services, both free automated translations and paid translations by hand. Some of them work better than others. I generally have the best results from Babelfish. Sometimes it may make sense to try translating your material in a couple of the different translators and compare the translations that come out.
Automated translators like these are very rudimentary, very simplistic. They don't have the sense to be able to handle most colloquial language, so everything gets translated very literally. Sometimes it's hard to figure out what on earth the original text was supposed to be. It will never substitute for learning the language and translating it yourself, but it can be very educational and somewhat helpful.
Enjoy!
I have to get now. It's been fun talking to you.
Mark
Sacramento, CA USA
48770 xie xie
Hi Make,
Hao jiu bu jian, lao peng you. How have you been?
Thank you so much for your explaining the "computer technology". I know how to enter that section and how to change the quote marks now. It is so interesting. Ha ha.
I love the scene of countryside very much. I climb hills almost every weekend. I can imagine how beautiful your city is. But I have no idea of your city ~{!'~}C Sacramento. Which state it is located?
I have never use the translator in My Language Exchange. Can you tell me where it is?
Zai jian. Xia ci zai liao.
Zhangyan
This is a reply to message # 48209
Language pair: English; Chinese, Mandarin
Category: Vocabulary/Translations Helen
Zhang
April 1, 2005
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Mark S.
April 6, 2005
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Latest: April 12, 2005
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View Language Encoding Selection
Wow!
Outcast just taught me a wonderful trick about how to make Chinese Characters appear in Chinese in my web browser, by pulling down the View menu, opening the encoding submenu, and selecting the desired language.
Problem is, that works only for the current page. the minute I move to another page, the default encoding setting is restored. I looked in Tools / Internet options for a way to make it stay on Chinese encoding for a while, but was unable to find a way to do that.
Anybody know of a solution to this?
Thanks in advance
Mark
Sacramento, CA USA
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Mark S.
March 28, 2005
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Lost buddy in Skype
Hi Mary.
If I understand correctly, you said that it looked like I had somehow de-registered, that you could no longer see me on you list of contacts in Skype?
I think this happened when we were talking and you suggested that I change my state to invisible. I forgot to change it back to connected, and that might explain the difficulty. I have changed it back to connected again, so let me know if that fixed the problem.
Talk to you later,
Mark
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Mark S.
March 26, 2005
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Re:Re:Re:Re:Spanish Lessons
It looks like it will not continue in the way the were. It seems that Rafael was doing a lot of work and students were pulling in different directions. Though I'm informed that there's a wonderful StudySpanish site on the web. If you look for that, you should get lots of excellent help on your own, and you can always ask questions and practice what you are learning here.
Sorry about that.
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Mark S.
March 6, 2005
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Latest: May 7, 2005
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Re:Re:Re:Spanish Lessons
Okay, I did not understand the previous message, but I am wondering if the lessons are going to continue?
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Amalia C.
March 5, 2005
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Latest: May 7, 2005
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Re:Re:Spanish Lessons
¡Hola Rafael¡
Mucho gusto conocerle.
Buscó a la información que mencionó, pero, como yo, es usted muy prolífico, y no puedo revisar sobre tan muchas mensajes. Tal vez, si me puede dar un clave para una busca; por ejemplo, lo escribí yo mismo una mensaje, el número 45005, que al menos una persona he discubrió muy ayudante en el primer parrafo para tales cosas.
Muchas gracias por su servicio tan bondadoso!
recuerdos,
Mark Springer
Sacramento, CA USA
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Mark S.
March 1, 2005
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Latest: May 7, 2005
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Spanish Lessons
¡Hola, todos¡ ¿Cómo están?
What's going on with the Spanish lessons around here? It looks like they petered out over the Christmas holidays and never really got going again.
So what's available? Do we have any students, teachers, anyone keeping an eye peeled in this thread?
I was wondering if it was possible that this thread had petered out because there wasn't a way for new teachers/students to find it. I don't know who would think to look for it here in Internet technology, unless there was some way for someone who knew to find the people who would want to know.
If we get enough interest, perhaps some of the students would be willing to monitor the new members and looking for partners areas, and notify the spanish speaking members that this is going on. Perhaps if enough of us clamored for a special Spanish language board area, we might get one.
Well, if anyone is still here, let me know what you think.
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Mark S.
February 21, 2005
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Mark S.
February 21, 2005
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Latest: February 21, 2005
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Re:Skype - Talking by voice
Alo, Rodolfo,
I'm Mark Springer, and i've only just begun to start studying Portuguese. I can still count the number of words in my vocabulary without taking off my shoes.
But I have found, at least with written Portuguese, that my extensive practice of Spanish has been a lot more helpful then I thought it would be. And I've been looking for a Skype partner, just so I could learn how to use the technology, and make sure it works all right on my computer.
Anyway, let me know what you think. Even if I'm not yet ready to speak Portuguese on Skype, at least if you speak a little English, we can get the system up and running and I can help a little with your English until you find a more fitting partner.
Let me know what you think.
Best wishes,
Mark Springer
Sacramento, CA USA
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Mark S.
February 21, 2005
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